Hogan Apex 2's (Black Cameo)

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By Robert C

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  1. Robert C

    Robert C

    I picked up a set of Apex 2's "Black Cameo" (3 thru E) that have never been hit. I found that they are a 1 year model from 1983 after the "white cameo" from 1979-1982. Trying to decode the serial number on the ferrule and get info on these clubs. These clubs came with Vector shafts and do not have a letter or number to reference the stiffness on the label. The label is "Gold" which may have color codes for the stiffness? Were the Vector shafts less desirable than the Apex shafts? Any other info is greatly appreciated, maybe the value too would be appreciated. Also have the staff bag.

    Thanks in advance,

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  2. Dale V

    Dale V
    Surprise AZ

    Nice find. Since the Ben Hogan Company closed down in the 1980's and recent renewal is not related to the real company, just bought the brand name, suggest you maybe go to generic golf forums and get your questions answered. Most folks here will be Titleist knowledgable.
  3. Robert C

    Robert C

    Thanks Dale, I appreciate the info..
  4. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I have a Titleist Tour set from 1980. Includes the persimmon 1-3-5 woods. No club has been hit as many as 10 times. Realized with 1-3 swings of a couple of the clubs that they were no match to me.
    The grips are similar to the pattern on the Hogan’s. Was able to find the green with white strips to replace the brittle ones that came with the set. Still look authentic.
    You should also post to other forums like My Golf Spy. Better chance to get information from a more generic forum than for Titleist enthusiasts.
  5. Robert C

    Robert C

    Thank you Don..
  6. larry m

    larry m
    columbiana, OH

    Shaft I'm not sure
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  7. Robert C

    Robert C

    Thank you, Larry
  8. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    larry m said:

    Shaft I'm not sure
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    This explains why the older clubs hit better. Loft-wise 695MB are close (the 8 iron is 40* and 9 iron is 44*) and I had been playing them 1/2” short and 1.5* upright.

    I also had a set of Wilson Staff X/31 that I played from 1979-2007 (on and off). Never had a problem with a 5 iron.

    I used my Dad’s Apex Plus irons for a year after he passed away (2015-2016) and morphed AP2s for 6 and 7 irons until 2000.
  9. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    I pulled out my Dad’s Apex Plus 9 iron and did a shootout with it, a 716MB 8 iron (40*) and T100S 9 iron (39*). The T100S is 35.75” and the other two are 36”. The Apex Plus is standard loft 9 iron and it beat the T100S by about 3 yards. Of course, the 716MB, when hit pure, beat the Hogan by 5 yards. The Hogan is more forgiving but it will be in my Sunday bag. They all swing exactly the same.
  10. larry m

    larry m
    columbiana, OH

    Usually hogan shafts were marked 1, 2, 3, 4. If I remember 4 was stiff but swing them and you should feel the stiffness.
  11. Thomas Y

    Thomas Y
    Wenham, MA

    Robert C, it has been a while since this information was near the front of my brain, so excuse me if my memory fails. Hogan Co. had a couple of shaft variants, Vector and Legend, that were options and limited use/time of offering. IIRC, the Legend shaft had very large butts and required special grips to fit over them and not be 'oversize'. Later in the history of Hogan, there was also an Apex Plus (?) shaft that I was talked out of buying by the local authorized Hogan repair center.

    Would you be able to post the serial number on the irons? There is a way to decipher these in older models such as what you have, but I need to see it to try to refresh my memory.

    Larry M is correct with the stiffness identification. Consider that Bernhard Langer used Apex 4 shafts for years (even in non-Hogan irons, I believe).

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