In Defense of "Slow" Play

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By Dino J

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  1. Dino J

    Dino J
    Burnaby, BC

    Hi Fellow TT'ers. I realize that the subject of "slow play" is one that evokes strong feelings and thoughts amongst golfers. However, there is something that I believe that should be stated about "slow play".

    I submit this post partly in response to one that is located on the main TT site discussing a slower player.

    As someone who has golfed for much of the past 35 years I have pretty much seen all types of players and group dynamics on the golf course -- so much so that there probably is little that would surprise me.

    When the topic of slow play comes up, I often look around at the people "complaining". I notice that many of the players that do complain about slow play are the same players that do not pick up their tees from the tee box, they do not repair their divots or replace them either.

    And to boot, I have rarely seen one of these players bend down to repair a ball mark let alone repairing their ball mark and one other as we have all been encouraged to do.

    It seems to me that many of these golfers focus more on the aspect of pace of play and how it may interrupt their own game and their own interests. Yet, they don't really observe any of the other rules of "etiquette" that golf has.

    It seems that it is wiser to be a tad more tolerant of others. Not everyone can play at a rabbit's pace. Many people play for a variety of reasons. Many older folk play purely for the recreation of the game -- being outside, enjoying some fresh air and physically walking the course. It is a very important part of their physical and emotional well being.

    I know that I would prefer seeing a group of older men and women playing golf like that rather than sitting around at the coffee shop or worse yet, simply staying in and becoming more isolated. Even if it means that I am waiting a little bit longer on each hole, I am prepared to be patient (there are times where it can be a bit frustrating - we all are human after all). Yet, seeing people outside being active is something that we should encourage -- it means that they are being more proactive in their own "health outcomes".

    When it comes to newer or lesser skilled players, I understand that they will take some time to play a hole -- sometimes a group of four each scoring 6-7's and the occasional "summer snowman - 8". Yet, I remind myself that we want these players to play. We want to encourage participation so that our local golf courses can remain viable financially.

    I used to belong to a semi-private Golf and Country club with tennis privileges, etc. but I looked around and often witnessed otherwise fine people becoming caricatures of the "judge" (Ted Knight) in Caddyshack. Of course, there were others that were caricatures of Rodney Dangerfield's character too (but I digress!)

    Another thought that I keep in mind is that there are those golf courses that list the time to play a round of 9 or 18, yet their tee booking policy runs counter to it. For example, one of our local courses which sees plenty of traffic, lists the playing time as 4.5 hours for a round of 18. That averages out to 15 minutes per hole. Yet, their tee sheet allots times at 8 minute intervals -- the idea being that while on group is on the green the other is in the fairway waiting to hit their approaches and yet another group is waiting on the tee box.

    This works only in theory -- if courses were really interested in pace of play they should be creating a better interval for groups so as to reduce the likelihood of bottlenecks.

    I know that I have gone on at length, but I wanted to throw some thoughts out there now that we are entering the traditional golf season. Like my regular coaching sessions, I sometimes find myself thinking about Pace of Play and Golf Course Etiquette as a "pre season" primer. If you've read this far then thank you for your kind consideration. D.

  2. Darius V

    Darius V
    Barrie, ON

    Dino - Very well written. You make a lot of good points and presented them nicely. I agree with you on just about everything. Like everyone, I too have encountered slow play. I play with a group of about 40 golfers that get together for small tournaments every other weekend through the summer. We have male and female players that range from handicaps of 6 all the way up to north of 40. The average round for these tournaments typically runs around 4.5 to 5 hours and it is not an issue as we know we have a good group and we all wait to do our prize presentations afterwards and have a snack at the clubhouse.
    At my home course, slow play to me is not necessarily the issue as I am one of those retired guys out to spend a day on the links with friends. It does become an issue when I find the group we catch up to has fallen a couple of holes behind the group ahead of them and they seem oblivious to that fact and still refuse to let the group behind them play through while they tromp through the bush looking for balls. Once a group falls that far behind (or sooner) they should be cognizant of the fact that they are likely holding things up and should either sacrifice the odd ball to the chipmunks, or do the honourable thing and let the group behind them play through. There are different kinds of slow play. A player struggling with their game because the bunkers are cruel is one thing. Spending time filling one's bag by fishing balls out of a pond while the group behind you is waiting on the tee is another.
    I agree with your idea that a Golf Course Etiquette Primer is something that many of the slow players could benefit from.
    I know for our little tournament group, we always have a huge shag bag of balls available at the beginning of the tournament for those that lose more balls than they should so that they would not care too much when a shot (or ten) go astray during the round. We also treat all areas in the woods as a hazard allowing the higher handicappers to take a drop at the point of entry to the forest with a stroke and move on. We find this helps speed up play. Kind of like the "relaxed rules of golf" that the Golf Channel promoted a lot last season.

    Good discussion Dino - I look forward to reading other members comments :)
    Darius
  3. Kevin R

    Kevin R
    ND Ile Perrot, QC

    Hey Dino,

    Like Darius, I agree with your points. I tend to not get too worked up over slow play in front of me. I, too, was a beginner many years ago. We want people to learn and come to love the game. Having "pace of play ***" ruining the experience for beginners is a sure way to drive someone away from the game.

    While on vacation earlier this month, we ran into a slow playing group in front of us. The marshal came around to advise that he had warned them to pick up the pace, as they were 2 holes behind. We said that we're on vacation and are enjoying the day regardless. He reminded us that there are people who are planning to tee off later in the day, expecting to finish 18 in time for sunset, and unless the group in front picks up the pace, it is unfair to the later groups. I had never really thought about that.

    I like your idea of a "etiquette primer", however I'm not sure how that could be implemented for a public golfer like myself.

    Regards,

    --
    Kevin
  4. pat r

    pat r
    markham, ON

    I think part of the issue of slow play is not so much weaker players because I am a 9 cap and I play Sunday mornings with guys that have a hard time breaking 100, and they rarely hold me up. The issue I see is on a par 5 when someone drives it 200y and is still 300y away and their waiting for the group ahead of them to finish on the green before they hit. I've also seen guys mark 1 foot putts and wait for their playing partners to finish up their putts and then line up their 1 foot putt like it's for a master's win.
    This is just what I observe and believe what most slow play comes from.
  5. Dino J

    Dino J
    Burnaby, BC

    pat r said:

    I think part of the issue of slow play is not so much weaker players because I am a 9 cap and I play Sunday mornings with guys that have a hard time breaking 100, and they rarely hold me up. The issue I see is on a par 5 when someone drives it 200y and is still 300y away and their waiting for the group ahead of them to finish on the green before they hit. I've also seen guys mark 1 foot putts and wait for their playing partners to finish up their putts and then line up their 1 foot putt like it's for a master's win.
    This is just what I observe and believe what most slow play comes from.

    Hi Pat,
    I agree with your comments -- there are times when I show up as a single and am paired up with a group and there is one player in our group that does exactly like you describe.

    Not knowing him, I do cajole gently, sometimes suggesting that if they think it is "probable" that they will reach the green then wait. Otherwise, the worst that will happen is that the ball rolls up gently? And then just a simple, "sorry about that ... I just happened to hit it better than I thought I would".

    At the first tee box, we generally discuss playing rules ... usually agreeing on "ready golf" for tee shots, unless someone scores a birdie (then they get the honours). The same for continuous putting unless it is directly in someone's line.

    It does help to speed things up a bit. But, when you are not in that group it can be very frustrating when you are waiting in the fairway or on the tee box waiting to play.

  6. Stephen F

    Stephen F
    Belleville Ontario, ON

    I used to play at a course that's first hole was a 204 yard par 3 with a very narrow long green that was bunkered on both sides. The tee times were 8 minutes apart on the sheet and there were never many times where a foursome finished the hole in 8 minutes or less. The tee times were always behind on a daily basis. It was crazy. As for slow play - I think that if you're keeping up with the group in front of you and there's never a full hole open ahead of you, there's not much more you can do. I believe that when you're away, be ready to hit and get moving. There will be the odd groups out there that can back up the whole golf course and that's what the marshals are there for. It can be pretty frustrating when you're waiting on every shot!
  7. Todd J

    Todd J
    Calgary, Alberta 🇨🇦

    Well slow play is my pet peave. I'm all for ready golf. Golf240.com is an excellent site with tips on what the golfer can do to while the rest of his group is playing. Like deciding on what Club to hit or even putting on your glove. I used to play with a guy that would site in the cart and do nothing until it was his turn, even if his ball was 10 yards away, it was always a longer round but the rest of the group would try and speed up to compensate for him.

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